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Value of Industrial Sales Training
It’s simple, but not easy.
by Joe Fidler


Speechless
Listening is one of the most difficult disciplines in sales.
But silence can be golden.
by Joe Fidler




The following article appeared in the Fall 2004
edition of the Sphere 1 Circular

Value of Industrial Sales Training
It’s simple, but not easy.


In my sales career I have had the opportunity to learn from scores of outstanding salespeople both in the US and in Europe. As everyone knows, it’s one thing to learn the skills of selling for yourself, but it’s quite another to teach it to others. As the senior training manager with a suc-cessful company, we first we tried to teach selling by getting the big names like Zig Ziglar, Brian Tracy, and Tom Hopkins. Their stuff is very good. Who could disagree with any part of it? But as managers charged with spending wisely, one question seemed to come up time and time again and the answer to that question did not make us very happy. The question was simply this: Six months after the training was over, could we measure any return on the $500 we had invested on each person for that half day of training?

For as much as I loved sales training as a participant, and considering how much everyone who attends these sessions loves the training, the Harvard research confirmed what we all knew in our hearts – namely that within three months - at best - few people can remember, let alone use, the information they heard. This was upsetting not only for management but also for the salespeople who wanted to become more professional, but somehow in the midst of the fastener wars, never really improved their skills.

We realized early on that the problem was not motivation – actually most of our people were good salespeople and wanted to sell. The problem was skill usage, development, and retention. We turned then, not to the professional motivators, but to the professional trainers association at the American Society of Training and Development.

By combining our product and customer knowledge with an award-winning methodology from the ASTD, we were able, not only to increase skill development and usage, but at the same time, we could measure how many dollars we got back from our investment. Within months every salesperson had opened at least three accounts on their “not sellable” list. And we moved the entire margin of the company several points – and that’s a lot of money in any company.

What is the “right” kind of training that can yield the results noted above? After trial and error in the early 90’s, we found an answer. It is so simple it can be stated in one sentence; but it is not easy to dismiss our old ways of thinking. The simple answer is: To be successful in industrial sales over the long term you must have a strategy of progressive skill training for salespeople and a way for management to coach them effectively.

Ever heard of a great team without a great coach? Ever heard about a great coach who didn’t have a great team? Consistency in getting new accounts and greater margins doesn’t just happen. The added value of industrial sales training is that it fulfills the needs of both management and salespeople in their quest to better satisfy their customers. To get a real value in sales training make sure the training company trains all the people in the sales process.

(Editor’s Note. Unlike the presidents of some consulting companies, Joe has actually made his living selling or managing in construction and industrial sales. Like many of you, Joe began his career selling belly to belly before reaching director of national sales and marketing train-ing at Hilti. He has also been regional manager at Sika in NewYork City. Learn more by going to Fidlerpartners.com or get their latest book The Oh Norman Diary at Amazon.com)

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The following article appeared in the
June 2002 edition of the
Building Supply Channel, Inc.


Speechless
Listening is one of the most difficult disciplines in sales.
But silence can be golden.
by Joe Fidler


Ask any salesperson about the value of listening and they will tell you that it is one of the most critical aspects of selling. The hottest authors agree, in fact, of the thirty fastest selling books on sales, every one of them notes the importance of listening -- usually concluding that listening and talking in a sales conversation should be done in the same ratio as ears to mouth.

But while seemingly everyone knows this, the actual practice of a pro dealer and seller may be quite different. Survey after survey with industry clients, clearly shows that most of the talking is done by the salesperson. Young or old, commercial or residential, experienced or new, lumber or drywall, most salespeople simply do not use the skill of effective listening.

If all the books say listening is important, and every salesperson agrees it could bring in thousands, why isn’t it being done? The heart of the answer lies in understanding the difference between knowing and doing. Just because we know something doesn’t mean we can do it. We know how to play basketball, but we cannot rebound effectively. We know (from reading a golf magazine) how to hit the golf ball, but we slice it, resulting in a high handicap. Salespeople know what should be done during the sale, but the proof is in the doing.

It’s an article of faith in the world of sports that, if we want our team to get better at basketball or golf, we simply must have the team submit to a practice regimen of a pro trainer or coach. This lesson from sports could not be truer in the world of business sales.

Yet in a recent assignment, my company was asked to assess why our client was constantly being beaten by the competition. The quality and performance of their respective products and systems were very close, but after comparing the number of training and coaching days over the past five years, the competitor had, on average, eighty days of skill training, whereas our client had only five days. And what skills did the competition think were important? One of their main training topics was, you guessed it –listening.

Our client asked us to evaluate a variety of salespeople for listening skills. To no one’s surprise, the salespeople who had not achieved their sales targets were poor listeners, but to everyone’s surprise, one listening error was common even among those salespeople who had achieved their targets.

The most common listening error in the top sales group was the two part skill of (1) asking a question and (2) the skill of Sh-sh-sh-sh - listening. While the quality and frequency of questioning by the top group was better, neither group listened to the answers from the customer. Why not? Because they were thinking about what they were going to say next! This is the error, not of a rookies, but of experienced salespeople who know that questions must be asked, and that of a professional team who wants to be ready with another question or statement. Even after post call coaching, the error would often be repeated on the next call, thus demonstrating the habitual nature of the problem.

Breaking the non-listening habit, like breaking any habit, requires the will to do it and the intervention of multi-step process. Uly Meixner, in his book The OH Norman Diary, succinctly points out that effective listening is hearing, understanding, and remembering.

Of course these salespeople could hear, but they rarely advanced to the second step: understanding. The answer to breaking this habit and developing the skill of understanding, while simple, is not easy, and comes only after drill, drill, and more drill. Using a few simple drills,* we taught them to focus on the last sentence the customer uttered and, as Brian Brio points out in his book, Beyond Success, “ to be fully present,” by asking the customer questions that will expose the full nature and meaning of the customer’s last remark.

What was the value of that sweet skill, Sh-sh-sh-sh? To the salespeople it meant thousands of dollars in commissions; to the company it meant becoming a happy paymaster for commissions funded by a three point increase in margin.

The focus today in sales is on margin percentage and margin dollars – and rightly so. The simple formula is less costs and/or higher revenues equals higher margins. But after processes have reduced costs to the minimum, the only path to more revenue is skill usage, and no set of skills can be utilized without effective listening.

So, stop talking, stop thinking about what you are going to say next, and simply practice sh-sh-sh-sh.- listening. What’s the point? Based on our research, we find it’s at least a point in margin.

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